Earth's Population to Drop by 80 Percent, Says Top U.K. Scientist

Summary: An exclusive interview with James Lovelock about his latest book, our doomed civilization, how today's environmental movement is wrecking the environment and nuclear energy remains one of our few hopes for the survival of our society and quality of life.

Some like it hot. According to environmentalist James Lovelock, we'll get plenty of hot between now and the end of the century. "We are so far down the path toward the hottest we have been, since we were 55 million years ago," Dr. Lovelock, who is also a leading atmospheric scientist, told StockInterview in a tape-recorded interview last week, "that as many of us look at it, it's not going to make very much difference what anybody does." In stronger commentary, which he wrote for England's Independent newspaper, this past January, Lovelock warned, "The Earth is about to catch a morbid fever that may last as long as 100,000 years." And we were worrying about another Ice Age? Skeptics might wonder if his 1200-word essay was just book publicity hype. Lovelock's scathing our-world-is-doomed article was published about two weeks before Penguin Books (UK) began selling his latest work, The Revenge of Gaia, in bookstores across the British Isles. He did admit within his newspaper commentary, "This article is the most difficult I have written." While interviewing Dr. Lovelock, during our transatlantic phone conversation, the octogenarian sounded sad with his prediction, but still optimistic, despite his ruthless appraisal of what may lay ahead for the rest of this century. "I see the crunch coming as an opportunity to improve ourselves in a way. Who knows? Man may have a better chance when he starts again." ONLY ABOUT ONE BILLION HUMANS WILL SURVIVE What does he mean by starting again? "By the end of this century, there is a high probability that the bulk of our species on the planet will be eliminated," the soft-spoken Lovelock gravely remarked. "There may be something, plus or minus, on the order of a billion left." Is there much hope, we asked. "I don't see our current civilization hacking it," he lamented in his response. But, but, what if? "Enormous changes must be made," he stressed. "Society is much too slow in cutting back." He insisted these changes should have started at least 50 years ago. Later he added, as an afterthought, "If Europe and USA were trying to be good and cut back by 30 percent, it's really not going to help much. I don't think the public wants to do it." In Lovelock's forecast, he envisions, at the end of this century, the last few humans would be forced to rebuild the remnants of our civilization in the Arctic. It won't be as cold up there by then, as you might think. He told us, "Within 25 years, most of the global ice in the Arctic will be gone. You will be able to take a sailboat to the North Pole." How long before we begin to feel these changes? "In my own modeling, I rather think it is an unknown number of years," Lovelock explained. "It may be five years or it may be 30 years." He offered a visual, "Think of it as a rope or a string. Global warming may run up in a straight line or a curve lying a bit loose as the IPCC seems to project." Lovelock summarized why his forecast is dire and probably irreversible, "Everybody forgets the greatest damage we've done to the earth is not so much the emissions from greenhouse gases, but taking away the natural resistance from the farmland ecosystem. By doing that, we have disabled the planet's ability to regulate itself." Lovelock does not enjoy painting a picture of what earth might look like several decades from now. He wrote in the Independent, in January, "Much of the tropical land mass will become scrub and desert, and will no longer serve for regulation; this adds to the 40 per cent of the Earth's surface we have depleted to feed ourselves." Through his book and in various articles, Lovelock has repeatedly blasted environmentalists who gamble away earth's future by campaigning for renewable energy sources. That's when we began talking about environmentalists, especially the idealists who claim to be helping preserve the earth. So, we asked this leading environmental scientist what was really wrong with today's environmental movement. Bitterness entered his voice when Lovelock answered, "It's mostly made up of urban people, who know almost nothing about the countryside and still less about the ecosystem." He scoffed, "Their solutions are basically urban-political solutions. They continue to insist on wanting to run their cars on bio fuels. This is one of the maddest ideas of the lot." Lovelock cuts no slack for those championing the cause of bio fuels. He writes in The Revenge of Gaia, "It would require us to burn every year about two to three gigatons of carbon as bio fuel (a gigatons is one thousand million tons). Compare this quantity with our yearly food consumption of half a gigaton tons